"But we were really locked in to that kind of format, and as the '90s wore on, it became for me more ..." — Phil Lesh

Not that there weren't great shows, and not that there wasn't plenty of fine music played. It's just that the consistency and the height of where we could take it, with the help of the audience, was less, I felt, in the '90s.

And that format was - we'd been using that format, I guess, since the late '70s, and it was starting to get very predictable. In other words, certain songs would surface in the same points in the set every so often; it was like rotation.

So what it boils down to, in my humble opinion, is that we need to support the arts in schools, and at every other level in the education of children.

I mean, sports are big, big, big business.